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CodeSquid
6th September 2003 11:42 UTC

Found some typos in english.nlf and some other language files:
# ^LicesnseTextRB
and
# ^UnLicesnseTextRB
In both lines there is an s too much.

CodeSquid
6th September 2003 11:48 UTC

Here the updated german language files.

Brummelchen
6th September 2003 11:56 UTC

Originally posted by CodeSquid
Here the updated german language files.

i am missing some strings in the modern ui - pls compare it to yours

i took the nsh from latest CVS this morning.

##updated Modern UI NSH

CodeSquid
6th September 2003 12:12 UTC

Near the bottom, replace MUI_TEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE and MUI_TEXT_COMPONENTS_SUBTITLE with MUI_UNTEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE and MUI_UNTEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE

Brummelchen
6th September 2003 12:51 UTC

Originally posted by CodeSquid
Near the bottom, replace MUI_TEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE and MUI_TEXT_COMPONENTS_SUBTITLE with MUI_UNTEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE and MUI_UNTEXT_COMPONENTS_TITLE

yep - found it in your NSH - found a double sequence in mine - i have update the NSH above.

CodeSquid
6th September 2003 13:09 UTC

I've fixed some typos in german.nlf and fixed german.nsh

Brummelchen, your german.nsh contains some obsolete strings which are now stored in the .nlf files. Also, at the end of some lines $_CLICK is missing in your version.

The attached version contains all fixes.

R@m00n
6th September 2003 13:10 UTC

Here the German translation as I promised it.

Oups, I should have pressed F5 before :(
Now we've 3 German translations ;D

Brummelchen
6th September 2003 13:21 UTC

@codesquid

i am still missing:

!insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGEFILE_STRING MUI_INNERTEXT_COMPONENTS_TOP "Wählen Sie die Komponenten aus, die Sie installieren möchten und wählen Sie diejenigen ab, die Sie nicht installieren wollen."

!insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGEFILE_STRING MUI_INNERTEXT_DIRECTORY_TOP "${MUI_PRODUCT} wird in das unten angegebene Verzeichnis installiert.$\r$\n$\r$\nFalls Sie in ein anderes Verzeichnis installieren möchten, klicken Sie auf Durchsuchen und wählen Sie ein anderes Verzeichnis aus."

!insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGEFILE_STRING MUI_UNINNERTEXT_INTRO "Dieser Assistent deinstalliert ${MUI_PRODUCT} von Ihrem Computer."

I did not search sourcecode if they are still a really used...

Did you mention that

!insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGEFILE_STRING MUI_TEXT_BUTTONTEXT_FINISH "&Fertig stellen"

became

!insertmacro MUI_LANGUAGEFILE_STRING MUI_TEXT_FINISH_BUTTON "&Fertig stellen"

?

i getting weird 'cause the CVS from whole september are buggy with the brandingtext - i stepped back to 30-08 which are functional with my scripts so far. a little bit disappointed and angry too.

Joost Verburg
6th September 2003 13:49 UTC

All these things are in the NLF file now. Please read http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=148146

Lion King
23rd October 2003 17:00 UTC

mui 1.67 + some fixes

MathiasSimmack
23rd October 2003 22:04 UTC

Originally posted by Lion King
mui 1.67 + some fixes

As I can see, you know that "Fertig stellen" are now two words. ;) But "stellen" is written in lower char´s. You should fix this, too.

Joost Verburg
23rd October 2003 22:33 UTC

The German installer/uninstaller Finish text also seem to be a bit different.

MathiasSimmack
23rd October 2003 23:46 UTC

I did some fixes. It should work now, but note: I changed a few other things, too. For example, the NLF file had a lot of "deinstalliere" words (too many IMHO), but we have a good german word for. It's called "entfernen".

Maybe other german guys could agree with my fixes ... or change them again. :)

Mathias.

Joost Verburg
24th October 2003 12:41 UTC

Why is there such a difference between MUI_TEXT_FINISH_INFO_TITLE and MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_INFO_TITLE? There is no "Fertig stellen" in the first one.

Also, in MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_INFO_TEXT, ihrem should be Ihrem.

MathiasSimmack
24th October 2003 13:16 UTC

Hi.

You're right with "Ihrem" in MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_INFO_TEXT. It was my fault, I didn't see it. :(

And the german MUI_TEXT_FINISH_INFO_TITLE is a translation of the englisch version. MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_INFO_TITLE is not! I just fixed the S in "stellen" yesterday. If you also want a good translation there, write "Die Deinstallation von $(^Name) wird abgeschlossen."

Mathias.

Lion King
24th October 2003 13:56 UTC

the commas in front of "erweiterte infinitive" are optional since the spelling reform and should be left out in short sentences imho

why did you remove the dash in "Startmenü-Ordner"? "Startmenü Ordner" is %userprofile%\startmenu imho

"entfernen" does not always work imho. sometimes uninstalling means reverting back to a previous version
"Entferne aus" does not work because the directory might also be removed

Joost: please change that title to what Mathias suggests
edit: but without the dot at the end

edit2: "Fertig Stellen" was correct because it's a noun

MathiasSimmack
24th October 2003 15:01 UTC

Originally posted by Lion King
why did you remove the dash in "Startmenü-Ordner"? "Startmenü Ordner" is %userprofile%\startmenu imho

I did not. There was no dash (if you mean that -) in your "german.zip", I downloaded yesterday. Don't forget, it's German. ;) "Startmenü Ordner" are two words. You should write "Startmenü-Ordner", if you don't want to use "Startmenüordner" or "Startmenüverzeichnis".

edit2: "Fertig Stellen" was correct because it's a noun

Maybe, I don't know :)

Now, I know ;) "Fertig stellen" is correct, as my Duden says. *g*

Another thing is, the meaning of "fertig stellen" and "beenden/vollenden/abschließen" (whatever) is basically the same. But usually, "fertig stellen" is used when an english phrase says finish something. It's some kind of standard. (This was for Joost about the difference.)

Mathias.

Lion King
24th October 2003 16:00 UTC

Originally posted by MathiasSimmack
I did not. There was no dash (if you mean that -) in your "german.zip", I downloaded yesterday. Don't forget, it's German. ;) "Startmenü Ordner" are two words. You should write "Startmenü-Ordner", if you don't want to use "Startmenüordner" or "Startmenüverzeichnis".

oops, we are right, "Startmenü-Ordner" is correct. i just assumed that i used the correct spelling :p

Now, I know ;) "Fertig stellen" is correct, as my Duden says. *g*

no, it doesn't. it only lists the verb (my version at least). it should rather be "Fertigstellen" i think, but that title will be removed anyway...

Another thing is, the meaning of "fertig stellen" and "beenden/vollenden/abschließen" (whatever) is basically the same.

"beenden" and "abschließen" are not basically the same as "vollenden" and "fertigstellen", you can "abschließen" or "beenden" unfinished things

MathiasSimmack
24th October 2003 16:26 UTC

Don't let this be a "how to spell German" kind of thing. :D We can discuss this another time, other place. ;)

We're both right (I'm a bit more :D), and that's it.

Mathias

Lion King
24th October 2003 16:43 UTC

http://www.xipolis.net/suche/abstrac...8209&verweis=1 :)

MathiasSimmack
24th October 2003 17:03 UTC

If this would be right, then you should replace "Fertig stellen" with "Fertigstellen" in your language file (i.e. MUI_BUTTONTEXT_FINISH).
And somebody should write a letter to Microsoft Germany and other companies. They all have to fix the Finish button text then. All say "Fertig stellen". ;)

Who's the one, saying German is easy?
:)

Lion King
25th October 2003 00:10 UTC

no, no, no

the button text is "Fertig stellen!" because it's an imperative. microsoft just omitted the exclamation mark in that sentence. the word in the finish title "Fertigstellen des..." is a noun.

Lion King
27th October 2003 13:22 UTC

Originally posted by Lion King
the commas in front of "erweiterte infinitive" are optional since the spelling reform and should be left out in short sentences imho

Joost: that means no commas in front of "um $(^Name) installieren zu können." in MUI_INNERTEXT_LICENSE_BOTTOM, MUI_INNERTEXT_LICENSE_BOTTOM_CHECKBOX and MUI_INNERTEXT_LICENSE_BOTTOM_RADIOBUTTONS

Joost Verburg
27th October 2003 13:42 UTC

Done

Lion King
27th October 2003 22:48 UTC

thanks Joost :)

Lion King
31st October 2003 15:00 UTC

UninstallingText

I still don't like that the installer removes (^Name) out of ("aus") the app dir in the German translation. It doesn't really fit if that dir is also removed. I don't know anything better though. Mathias perhaps?

MathiasSimmack
5th November 2003 19:50 UTC

Originally posted by Lion King
Mathias perhaps?

I really don't know, Lion King. I'm sorry. My suggestion is something like "Setup wird $(^Name) aus dem folgenden Ordner entfernen", but there is also an "aus" in there. :)

What I think is: Actually there is no setup (at least none that I know) displaying the folder, it uses to remove a software. It just removes it. Or you can select the components, you want to remove. But however, there is no reason, changing the folder before.

But (@you, NSIS developers) this is JUST what I think.

Mathias.

Joost Verburg
5th November 2003 21:28 UTC

You can't change the folder, it just to let the user know where it will be removing files (to prevent any mistakes).

Like the other pages, this one is optional, so the developer can choose whether to use it or not.

MathiasSimmack
6th November 2003 07:41 UTC

I was talking about "UnDirText" in Lion King's file (s. above). This is the classic UI, right? Or the basic language file ... whatever you name it. The second phrase says To uninstall from a different folder, click Browse and select another folder. And that's exactly what I can do.
But as you wrote

Originally posted by Joost Verburg
Like the other pages, this one is optional, so the developer can choose whether to use it or not.

I never used it before. :)
However, it has nothing to do with the modern UI.

Mathias.

Joost Verburg
6th November 2003 12:53 UTC

Oh right, it the uninstaller directory page, not the confirm page.

It could be useful when you can install multiple copies or something like that.

Comm@nder21
7th November 2003 21:32 UTC

question to all the german translators:
frage an alle deutschen übersetzer:
in der deutschen übersetzung der lizenz-seite ist die rede von "lizenzabkommen", heist das nicht "vereinbarung"? so bin kenne ich das zumindest von den meisten anderen installern diverser software her. ist zwar nicht so wichtig, wollte das aber mal ansprechen.

Lion King
8th November 2003 02:08 UTC

Hmm, Leo sagt tatsächlich, dass "Vereinbarung" ein juristischer und "Abkommen" ein politischer Ausdruck ist.

Google zeigt allerdings, dass beides in beiden Zusammenhängen verwendet wird.

Hier sehe ich keinen Unterschied:
http://www.dwds.de/cgi-bin/portalL.p...h=Vereinbarung
http://www.dwds.de/cgi-bin/portalL.pl?search=Abkommen

Kennt sich hier jemand mit deutschem Vertragsrecht aus? :D

R@m00n
7th December 2003 09:13 UTC

German for MUI 1.68

Lion King
31st December 2003 09:57 UTC

i added some missing commas

Joost Verburg
31st December 2003 11:37 UTC

Uploaded :)

Yathosho
19th January 2004 10:50 UTC

i don't know, i think some of the translations are very complicated. i think you shouldn't translate like every single word from english into german, but think of how to express an instruction best. no offence.

Konrad
2nd February 2004 16:34 UTC

error in german translation
In the latest CVS version of German.nsh in line 13 there stands:

!define MUI_TEXT_WELCOME_INFO_TITLE "Willkommen beim Installations-\r\n\Assistenten für $(^NameDA)"

One slash after the \n is too much. Please correct it to

!define MUI_TEXT_WELCOME_INFO_TITLE "Willkommen beim Installations-\r\nAssistenten für $(^NameDA)"

Thanks
Konrad

Joost Verburg
2nd February 2004 17:01 UTC

Thanks, fixed :)

Comm@nder21
2nd February 2004 19:37 UTC

1.:
what's the difference between ^NameDA and ^Name ?

2.:

!define MUI_TEXT_FINISH_SUBTITLE "Die Installation wurde erfolgreich abgeschlossen."
!define MUI_TEXT_ABORT_SUBTITLE "Die Installation wurde nicht vollständig abgeschlossen."

and

!define MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_SUBTITLE "Die Deinstallation von $(^NameDA) wurde erfolgreich abgeschlossen."
!define MUI_UNTEXT_ABORT_SUBTITLE "Die Deinstallation wurde nicht vollständig abgeschlossen."

if u compare those strings, only 'MUI_UNTEXT_FINISH_SUBTITLE' contains the bold text.
imho every of these four strings should contain this part, or none of them.

btw: my 99th post, how time goes by ... :D

Joost Verburg
2nd February 2004 20:17 UTC

I'll remove that one. The difference between Name and NameDA is the double ampersand (a single one is used to add an accelerator key).