solenn
14th January 2005 11:05 UTC

Breton translation file for NSIS
Solenn

kichik
14th January 2005 13:22 UTC

Thanks for the translation. But the supplied language id is invalid (10FF). I couldn't find the id anywhere. Without a valid language id, Breton will not be correctly selected. What is the correct language id?

solenn
14th January 2005 15:33 UTC

Kichik,

There is no LCID for Breton, this is an issue we have since a long time and are still fighting with MS to be recognized...

Is this a so big issue for NSIS ? As far as I understand NSIS won't be able to select automatically the Breton choice in the list of languages, at launch tim ... but as far as there is no localization of Windows in this language, I guess this does not matter :)

If the user just selects the language in the list, is it going to work ?

Thanks,
Solenn

kichik
14th January 2005 15:44 UTC

If there's no language id, it's true that it won't be selected automatically anyway. But, it might overlap with another language. I'll take a look and see if zero is a good option to avoid that. If not, is there a totally invalid language id you've been using for Breton? If Breton is based on French, something like MAKELANGID(LANG_FRENCH, 0x20) might be a good idea. MAKELANGID's documentation even states:

For a user-defined sublanguage, usSubLanguage is a value in the range 0x20 to 0x3F. All other values are reserved for system use.

solenn
14th January 2005 16:00 UTC

Kichik,

It is true to say that Breton is a language of France, but linguistically speaking, it has no link with it (French is a Latin language, Breton a Celtic one).

I am not sure that what you suggests is the best solution: See what they did with Basque (language of Spain/France with no link with Spanish/French) or Welsh (language of UK with no link with English): those two languages have their own LCID which is not a SUB ID of LANG_SPANISH or LANG_ENGLISH ...

In my humble opinion, the best (less worst...) solution would have been to create a LANG_CELTIC main lang id, with SUB_LANG_WELSH, SUB_LANG_BRETON, SUB_LANG_IRISH, SUB_LANG_SCOTTISH & SUB_LANG_MANX as subids... But there is an issue : there is actually no LANG_CELTIC main language spoken !!!

If you can force the LCID to 0 for the moment it will be just fine toi us :) and it is true to say that $10FF was definitely not a good default choice,

Have a good time,
Solenn

kichik
14th January 2005 16:21 UTC

OK, then it seems MAKELANGID(0x0200, 0x20) == 33280 is the best solution. According to MSDN, it's a user-defined language and that seems like what we need. This way, it will never be automatically selected unless it's the only or first language used. Is that OK with you?

solenn
14th January 2005 16:29 UTC

Great !

I did not even know it was possible to use the MAKELANGID(0x0200, 0x20) api to specify a user-defined language id ! Seems that we found a case where it will be useful !

Solenn

BTW, here is the UNICODE language matrix. I don't know why MS did not define LCIDs for all the (missing) languages ...

http://www.unicode.org/onlinedat/languages.html

kichik
14th January 2005 16:41 UTC

Added to latest CVS version.

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solenn
11th May 2005 15:42 UTC

Hi !

There was an issue with the Breton pack.
(The string for translation credits was not commented).

Find updated files at:
http://www.drouizig.org/Saozneg/Software/misc-NSIS.html

Thanks,
Solenn

kichik
11th May 2005 15:51 UTC

I couldn't find the updated files on the website, so I've just commented the line.

solenn
11th May 2005 15:59 UTC

Thanks Kichik,
It's now uploaded on the site :)
Solenn

solenn
14th December 2005 15:21 UTC

Hi !

We have fixed a bunch of typos with the Breton version files,
Please could you get the new files for coming NSIS 2.12 ?

Find updated files at:
http://www.drouizig.org/Saozneg/Software/misc-NSIS.html

Thanks,
Solenn

kichik
15th December 2005 17:11 UTC

Thanks, it'll be included with 2.12.

solenn
21st January 2006 18:43 UTC

Hi Kichik,

At last Microsoft Vista is bringing an official LCID for Breton... should be nice to update the Breton NSIS files with it now ?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...l/nls_19ir.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...l/nls_61df.asp

Thanks,
Solenn!

solenn
23rd January 2006 08:50 UTC

Hi!
So we did update the Breton version files again, with the LCID initialized to 1150 (0x47e) = MAKELCID(MAKELANGID(LANG_BRETON, SUBLANG_BRETON_FRANCE),SORT_DEFAULT)

The language files can be downloaded at:
http://www.drouizig.org/Saozneg/Software/misc-NSIS.html

I guess other files in the NSIS engine should have to be updated too, including the windows compiler you use & the latest SDK (MSVC 2005).
Anyway let us know & keep up the good work!
Solenn

kichik
27th January 2006 15:25 UTC

Thanks, uploaded.

BTW, NSIS doesn't use LCID in the language files, only LANGID. SORT_DEFAULT is 0, so it came out the same in this case.

solenn
2nd November 2006 12:52 UTC

Hi !

Breton files have been updated (with minor fixes).

Find updated files at:
http://www.drouizig.org/Saozneg/Software/misc-NSIS.html

Thanks!
Solenn

kichik
2nd November 2006 12:59 UTC

Thanks, uploaded.