What does this mean for NSIS?

zedzedbeta5
20th November 2013 20:34 UTC

What does this mean for NSIS?
What does the latest announcement here mean for the installation platform? NSIS is by far the best out there and I would hate to see it disappear.

http://www.winamp.com/media-player/en

Yathosho
20th November 2013 20:44 UTC

for nsis it means nothing, just for the forums. would be lovely if we'd get access to all the posts, but i doubt that will happen. nsis has been open sourced for the longest time and the project (and wiki) is currently on sourceforge.

i'm currently on and off working on a new website for nsis and my suggestion would be to integrate a forum. waiting for kichik to show up on chat to discuss this with him.

Dygear
21st November 2013 01:12 UTC

I'm more then happy to host the forums for this on my servers, if anyone wants to take this community and take it somewhere else, I'm happy to help do that. I also happen to have a vBulletin license. Just shoot me an email Dygear@gmail.com.

GDILord
21st November 2013 07:59 UTC

AOL Closing Winamp - Effect on NSIS
Hi

http://www.winamp.com/media-player/en

Winamp.com and associated web services will no longer be available past December 20, 2013. Additionally, Winamp Media players will no longer be available for download. Please download the latest version before that date. See release notes for latest improvements to this last release.
Thanks for supporting the Winamp community for over 15 years.

What effect will the closing of Winamp and have on NSIS?

Thanks
GDI Lord

xbarns
21st November 2013 09:29 UTC

winamp.com not available anymore from Dec. 20th 2013?
Hi everyone,

i just saw this message http://www.winamp.com/media-player/en.

What will this mean for NSIS and the forum?

x

Yathosho
21st November 2013 12:16 UTC

Originally posted by GDILord
Hi

http://www.winamp.com/media-player/en

What effect will the closing of Winamp and have on NSIS?d

why should it have any effect on nsis? afaik the only actual link to nullsoft/aol is that justin frankel was behind nsis 1.x, ever since 2.x came out it's been in the hand of the community and hosted on sourceforge.

i've been wondering about the legal situation before, e.g. whether nsis is legally entitled to use the name "nullsoft". maybe this shutdown is a good occasion to cut all ties and give a new meaning to n in nsis.

Originally posted by xbarns
What will this mean for NSIS and the forum?

according to that notice, the forum will be shut down. imho that's shame regarding all the knowledge stored here. personally i don't find it important to carry on in the shape of a forum. i wouldn't mind using github (there are thoughts moving nsis to github) or sourceforge. there's also a lot of activity going on at stack overflow.

Anders
21st November 2013 12:38 UTC

For the project itself it means nothing since everything else is hosted on sourceforge.

We will move to a different forum, we just have to decide where to go. And as Yathosho says, you can also ask on stackoverflow...

Yathosho
21st November 2013 12:41 UTC

Originally posted by Anders
We will move to a different forum, we just have to decide where to go

i'd just stay away from forum hosters to prevent another lock-in or try to find one where that won't happen. is it possible to install one via sourceforge websites (like the wiki)?

MSG
21st November 2013 13:01 UTC

My two cents worth: The NSIS forums have always offered an extremely low-threshold gateway to the community. Apart from the enormous amount of knowledge available here, which in my opinion is worth some effort to try and preserve, I believe it would be of great benefit to keep something as open as these forums available for (future) users.

While saying that, I do realize that the amount of work required isn't going to get done by itself, and I don't have the luxury of being able to offer hours to help. So I just hope some other people will be willing to jump in.

Practical question: Did anyone approach the Winamp webmasters for a copy of the NSIS forums database?

T.Slappy
21st November 2013 15:34 UTC

I agree with Msg - what about simply copying NSIS forum database and starting it on other server?
I want to help with this, can anybody find out what is required for such action?

Anders
21st November 2013 16:10 UTC

It is unknown at this point if we can get a dump of this subforum but from what I heard we should not get our hopes up.

Somebody could of course use wget in spider mode on http://forums.winamp.com/archive/index.php/f-65.html and host it somewhere so it can be indexed by google ;)

Yathosho
21st November 2013 20:50 UTC

too bad the archive view doesn't denote code-blocks, otherwise it would've been easy to add a syntax highlighter to the scraped pages

Yathosho
22nd November 2013 22:22 UTC

Originally posted by Anders
Somebody could of course use wget in spider mode on http://forums.winamp.com/archive/index.php/f-65.html and host it somewhere so it can be indexed by google ;)

Somebody just did -> http://nsis-dev.github.io/NSIS-Forums

Anders
23rd November 2013 08:44 UTC

Originally posted by Yathosho
Somebody just did -> http://nsis-dev.github.io/NSIS-Forums

Great!

I was going to see if I could write a script to do it, I believe the printer friendly version of a thread will preserve code blocks...

Yathosho
23rd November 2013 12:37 UTC

the printer friendly version also has the advantage of preserving links and quote levels. on the downside, there's pagination. i'll see what i can do, ultimately it would probably best to have all the data in a json or xml file. i'll see what i can do.

Anders
23rd November 2013 15:27 UTC

Yes the posts per page parameter seems to be limited to 40