Modern UI 1.63 - Translation

Originally posted by Joost Verburg
Can you try wheather increasing the width a bit (in ioSpecial.ini) works?

Yep, changing the "Right" to 480 (original value = 475) for "Field 2" works for me! 🙂

Thanks. I will change the margins a bit 🙂

edit: Done 😁

Originally posted by Joost Verburg
Thanks. I will change the margins a bit 🙂

Well, the MUI_TEXT_WELCOME_TITLE has been fixed, but now the "required space" area is too small...

That label already has the maximum size. When the install-size number is quite large, all the other space on the component selection dialog is required.

Can you make it a bit smaller, 'space' instead of 'disk space' for example?

It was already "required space". I could only "cut" the ending of the first word.

German translation/MUI 1.6

I inserted a linebreak in 'Installations-\r\Assistenten' on the welcome dialog, can you make nsis automatically linebreak on '-'?

I'm not sure about 'Wizard'='Installations-Assistent', can any 'German windows > 98' user confirm this?

I don't like the 'Show Readme' text, sometimes those files have different names eg. makensis.htm or localized names (liesmich)
everyone who has used computers for a while knows what 'readme' means, newbies may not
non-English speaking people don't understand the self-referential meaning of 'readme' at all
I refuse to write 'Liesmich anzeigen': BAD style, it may eventually make sense as a filename but not as an checkbox option
also the content of a readme is nowhere defined (unlike eg. a file_id.diz), it could be everything
I suggest 'Show product information' ('Produktinformationen anzeigen')

This Microsoft page should help you find the right word. It has other languages but German. It helped me quite a lot translating to Hebrew.

Wizard = Assistent according to that page.

The welcome page uses Install Options, so you should use \r\n for linebreaks.

The 'Show Readme' text can be customized by the user. For the default text, I think 'Show Readme' is ok.

A Readme is not just product installation. It also contains troubleshooting tips when the user is unable to start the software etc.

If you can think of a better default text, tell me.

thanks kichik, I didn't know that page
so 'setup wizard = Installations-Assistent' is correct

Joost please update the linebreak in the language file I attached in my last post and upload it
the text will be 'Readme anzeigen' for now

A Readme is not just product installation.

product information

in the past a readme contained last minute information that didn't make it into the printed manual, nowadays (www age) it can contain the whole manual, quick usage tips, the version history or whatever the autor feels like - you can't even call it important information because I've seen too many readmes that weren't at all important 🙂

That's what I mean, it's difficult to give a good general name. Users can customize it if they wish ('Show documentation', 'Show Usage Tips').

Bug in German.nsh:
STARTMENU_WINDOWTITLE misses the ": "

Please change it.

Ramon

Danish oh my god 😁

Weeee ther we go 😁

Danish all the way 😁

Japanese

For CAPTION, the word SETUP breaks up when you run it even on a japanese machine. Too new to edit or anything but just thought I'd let ya'll know.

I have no idea what you mean. Can you please post a screenshot or give some more details?

small fix for German.nsh line 43: "Fertigstellen" is much better than "Fertig stellen"
Proof: Search with Google for "Fertigstellen" and "Fertig stellen", first one has more results 😁

'Fertigstellen' is correct but wrong here

fertigstellen means that you have to click that button to complete the setup, but it already is complete at that point
the only thing that the button does is closing the dialog

so I'd label it 'Beenden' after thinking about it

'Fertig stellen' is the correct translation.

Have a look at the official MS translations: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en..._word_list.htm

Thanks for the link to the MS page.

Well, "Beenden" would not be correct in all cases, either.
"Beenden" would not be the right choice if the user would have to reboot the machine in order to finish the installation.

So: Please make it "Beenden" if installation is really complete and "Fertig stellen" if the user has to reboot. And don't forget to do this for all languages ;-)

The Microsoft wizard guidelines say that you should always use 'Finish' for this button. All other wizard use it too.

argh [insert long rant about some obscure new rules in the German orthography reform from 1998 and it's use in the duden (leading German spelling dictionary)]

anyway it's wrong in that context as explained above (even though indeed used that way by microsoft as some pics show that I found with google)

Joost: do think that m$ can turn wrong into right by just doing it? it probably can...

edit: finish does also mean beenden

I think the translation Windows uses is the best for wizards. People will recognize everything.

+------------------------------------------+

| Finished (Fertig)                        | <- says that the setup is already finished

+------------------------------------------+

|                                          |

|  Installation complete                   | <- says that the setup is already finished

| (Die Installation ist vollständig.)      |

|                                          |

|                                          |

|  [x] Show Readme                         |

|                                          |

|  [x] Reboot now                          |

|  [ ] Reboot later manually               |

|                                          |

+------------------------------------------+

|                [Finish (Fertig stellen)] | <- says that the setup is not yet finished

+------------------------------------------+

either title and windowtitle or the button is wrong

you cannot finish (Fertig stellen) someting that is finished (Fertig) or complete (vollständig)


you can label it:

Nearly finished (Fast fertig)
The installation is about to be complete (Die Installation ist so gut wie vollständig)

or better not? 😛

Here they are: Bulgarian language files, directly from one of 'my' translators. 🙂
Please add them to the NSIS repository. 👍

I think "Completing the Test Setup wizard" as title and "Completing" as window title would be better.

Do you agree?

Completing the Test Software Setup (Die Installation von Test Software wird abgeschlossen)
Completing the Setup (Abschluss der Installation)

completing the wizard is your job 🙂

uhg, that depends on how you define wizard
if wizard is an appilication it's wrong
if wizard is a step-by-step process it's ok

I've found a pic that shows that the German translation of windows xp also treats 'Assistent' as a process (previous windows versions didn't), that would be:

"Der ${MUI_PRODUCT} Installations-\r\nAssistent wird abgeschlossen." as title and "Abschliessen des Assistenten" as window title

I still recommend my previous suggestion though, because an 'Assistent' is a person who helps and supports you
so that assistant has to be an actor (program) and cannot be a process

but choose whatever you want

"The installation is about to be complete" is also not really correct. The actual installation has already been completed.

I'll follow the MS Guidelines.

I was arguing about the German translation in the last post, use either

title: "Der ${MUI_PRODUCT} Installations-\r\nAssistent wird abgeschlossen."
window title: "Abschliessen des Assistenten"

or (recommended by me):
title: "Die Installation von ${MUI_PRODUCT} wird abgeschlossen"
window title: "Abschluss der Installation"

I still think the guidelines suck though.

I've attached an updated version of the bulgarian language files, they fix some small errors